The Pope’s Confusion Over Whose Church It Is
As expected, the interview is a clear indication that the book will be good for nothing but lining your hamster’s cage.
The man-centeredness of Modernist Rome has once again been on glaring display in a two-part interview between Pope Leo XIV and Crux Senior Correspondent Elise Ann Allen, recently published.
The interview will be included in her new biography of the pontiff, León XIV: Ciudadano del mundo, Misionero del siglo XXI (“Leo XIV: Citizen of the World, Missionary of the 21st Century”).
As expected, the interview is a clear indication that the book will be good for nothing but lining your hamster’s cage.
On the question of how the Holy Father would define synodality, he had the following unsurprising, cotton-candy response:
“Synodality is an attitude, an openness, a willingness to understand. Speaking of the Church now, this means each and every member of the Church has a voice and a role to play through prayer, reflection… through a process. There are many ways that that could happen, but of dialogue and respect of one another. To bring people together and to understand that relationship, that interaction, that creating opportunities of encounter, is an important dimension of how we live our life as Church.
Some people have felt threatened by that. Sometimes bishops or priests might feel, ‘synodality is going to take away my authority.’ That’s not what synodality is about, and maybe your idea of what your authority is, is somewhat out of focus, mistaken. I think that synodality is a way of describing how we can come together and be a community and seek communion as a Church, so that it’s a Church whose primary focus is not on an institutional hierarchy, but rather on a sense of ‘we together,’ ‘our Church.’ Each person with his or her own vocation—priests, laity, bishops, missionaries, families. Everyone with a specific vocation that they’ve been given has a role to play and something to contribute, and together we look for the way to grow and walk together as Church.
It’s an attitude which I think can teach a lot to the world today. A little bit ago we were talking about polarization. I think this is sort of an antidote. I think this is a way of addressing some of the greatest challenges that we have in the world today. If we listen to the Gospel, and if we reflect upon it together, and if we strive to walk forward together, listening to one another, trying to discover what God is saying to us today, there is a lot to be gained for us there.
I do very much hope that the process that began long before the last synod, at least in Latin America—I spoke about my experience there. Some of the Latin American Church has really contributed to the universal Church—I think there’s great hope if we can continue to build on the experience of the past couple years and find ways of being Church together. Not to try and transform the Church into some kind of democratic government, which, if we look at many countries around the world today, democracy is not necessarily a perfect solution to everything. But respecting, understanding the life of the Church for what it is and saying, ‘we have to do this together.’ I think that offers a great opportunity to the Church and offers an opportunity for the Church to engage with the rest of the world. Since the time of the Second Vatican Council, I think that’s been significant, and there’s a lot to be done yet…”
“…And there is a lot to be done yet…” I am sure there is—a lot more destruction the Modernists have to inflict on Mother Church.
Once again, we are treated to the soft, sentimental fog of “synodality,” this time on the lips of Pope Leo XIV. What is striking about his words is not their profundity, but their emptiness. He reduces the Church—founded by Christ as a divinely instituted hierarchy—to a vague “process” of dialogue, mutual respect, and “encounter.” These are not the marks of the Church militant, called to guard and proclaim the deposit of Faith; they are the slogans of a therapeutic culture allergic to clarity, authority, and truth.
The Holy Father declares: “Each member of the Church has a voice and a role to play… The essential thing is dialogue and mutual respect.” Notice what is absent: the Magisterium, the authority of the bishops, the obedience of the faithful, the submission of reason and will to revealed truth. Instead of shepherds teaching with authority, we are offered round-table conversations in which every opinion—no matter how erroneous—is given space to “journey” alongside the truth. Dialogue replaces doctrine; encounter replaces evangelization. This is not Catholicism. It is liberal democracy transposed onto the supernatural order.
Most troubling is his dismissal of episcopal and priestly concern: “Sometimes bishops or priests may think, ‘Synodality is going to take away my authority.’ But that’s not what synodality is about…” Here he mocks the very authority Christ Himself established when He said to Peter, “Feed my sheep.” Authority in the Church is not “misfocused” or “misguided”—it is the divinely instituted means by which souls are safeguarded from error. To suggest otherwise is to undermine the foundation of the Church’s visible structure, which Vatican I solemnly defined as necessary for salvation. The Pope himself seems embarrassed by the “institutional hierarchy,” preferring instead a nebulous “we together, our Church.” But whose Church is it? Not “ours” in any democratic sense—it is Christ’s Church, His Mystical Body, ordered hierarchically under His Vicar on earth.
Finally, Leo XIV attempts to make synodality into a social panacea: “It’s an attitude that can teach a lot to today’s world… an antidote to polarization.” This is nothing but ecclesial horizontalism. The mission of the Church is not to soothe worldly divisions with polite conversation. It is to convert the nations, to baptize them, to bring them under the sweet yoke of Christ the King. Dialogue did not convert the Roman Empire—martyrs did. Mutual respect did not bring Europe out of pagan darkness—the clear preaching of the Faith did.
Leo XIV offers us a counterfeit vision of the Church. Not the Ark of Salvation, but a forum for endless chatter; not the Bride of Christ, but a facilitator of dialogue; not the Kingdom of God, but a worldly NGO offering an “antidote” to polarization.
Traditional Catholics must reject this dilution of the Faith with all the zeal of our forefathers, who would rather shed their blood than see the divine constitution of the Church reduced to a bureaucratic exercise in “journeying together.”
Christus vincit!
Christus regnat!
Christus imperat!
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More gaslighting from Leo. He uses word salad to confuse us; the more empty and sweet words he tosses into his salad, the more it is meant to mislead and confuse our brain cells. Destruction coated in chocolate.