God bless and keep them. May their very public courage and faith inspire those of us who live daily in our own quiet way in our attempt to keep the True Faith. A daily battle that at times feels impossible, but by God's Grace and with St. Joseph's help as Patron of the Universal Church a battle which will be won!
God is calling us all to choose. So good to see some more men of courage. If you serve Christ, you can't serve the anti church. Too many choose the life of comfort, friends, respectability, positions etc....and our Lord is showing us who they are. Very sad to see so many willing to go along but the church is a huge business today. Many are employed by it or have an important position or respectability in it. Too many have given their lives to the church..investing countless hours, to create images of holiness so don't want to leave.
I too struggled as I was part of a church and community I loved but eventually left. In the 90's I realized we were PC but thought it fine because I believed the priests were correcting people and or kicking them out when necessary. Well, my world slowly but surely fell apart as lie after lie eventually made me define what I was seeing as Modernism. Now with the synodal church it is evident that they are teaching against what was always taught. Modernism was half the truth..always positive never speaking of sin or judgement. Synodality is actual acceptance of sin and betrayal of the Word of God, Tradition and the old magisterium.
You are either for God or against God so we can not compromise. Sorry to say, the pinch of incense is being packaged as compassion for the good priests vs bad bishops. But how can one be good if they obey evil. Isn't obedience to evil itself evil?
Absolutely, positively agree with these courageous men. God is using the Church's Passion as a sifting process. One must choose between following Christ or following modernism. Fence-sitting will not cut it, and cowtowing to the Vatican's weaponization of "obedience" will not fly.
CLARITY!! Whether you agree (i do!!) or disagree with them, one HAS to find the clarity in their position a refreshing break from the ambiguity and doubletalk that is synonymous with Rome!!
May God continue to bless them and guide them in His Truth🙏🙏
Very disappointed. Why they don’t call those guys in white trappings from Roncalli to Prevost are not popes at best? And the imperfect general council is a joke, all real Cardinals are death, the remaining traditional Bishops and Priests do not have any ordinary jurisdiction, they only have sacramental power to sanctify souls, let alone a council.
They stated that the Conciliar Popes were not true Popes; I misunderstood their call for an imperfect Council; from my reading, it is not to elect a Pope, but to make a clear Canonical declaration of the non-Papacy of these men.
"And the imperfect general council is a joke, all real Cardinals are death, the remaining traditional Bishops and Priests do not have any ordinary jurisdiction, they only have sacramental power to sanctify souls, let alone a council"
My feeling is that these monks are full of righteousness and to tell the truth very naive too: the tradconciliar religion and the conciltrad one have never existed, don’t exist and will never ! It’s that simple and the trads have to choose either one or the other. Now with the synodal dinguerie it’s worse: can you imagine tradsynodal! What’s that animal ? Think about it ! Chicken ass duck head! Or if you prefer the wedding of the carp and the rabbit !
The arguments of Unam Sanctam used to justify the imperfect council are not based on the laws of the church. They admit that an imperfect council "starts outside the bounds of legality" but can produce a valid a pope, and they say that "deadly legalism" will not stop them from proceeding with it. See this analysis of their arguments.
“The Redemptorists were marked by doctrinal clarity, missionary zeal, Marian devotion, and fierce opposition to the theological laxity of their age.”
Not so any longer. They are marked by doctrinal ambiguity and Modernism, have no concern for the salvation of souls since all religions lead to God, and are as theologically lax as they can be. They do have a sort of misguided Marian devotion but it is not that of Saint Alphonsus of whom they are ashamed. How far they have fallen. Our holy Father Alphonsus must be thoroughly disgusted to see what has become of his congregation.
Their mistake and the mistake of the SSPX is believing non-Catholics can both be members of the Catholic Church and have authority over those who are Catholic and thus members of the Catholic Church.
their masses for the most part are valid and so are all the other sacraments.All priests in my area believe in the real presence and that sacraments give grace.
I can't agree. A counterfeit church led by a false pope who rewrote all of the sacraments to conform to its heretical theological and philosophical principles can't logically be valid. Nor can an invalid pope codify rewritten sacraments that reflect a heretical theology to make them valid. All the priests in the Novus Ordo church belong to a counterfeit church so it doesn't matter if they happen to believe something the Catholic Church teaches; they believe the errors and heresies of the counterfeit church as well or they wouldn't be in it.
How do you confirm you are a member of the one true church?
Focusing not on the synodal church and the magisterium that built it to create a new religion?
The church is eternal and Jesus promised the gates of hell would never prevail.
Just continue to attend traditional mass and follow teachings (and ordained teachers) who follow pre Vatican 2 teachings, scripture translations and interpretations, and dont change what the church has taught for centuries? Holding on tight but what if traditional mass and the good people who offer it for us to God are excommunnicated in the name of defying the authority of the church?
I am a child of God. But I am a wife and mother second... I will do everything I can to help my husband and children get to Heaven. But navigating how to do this without feeling like Im slowly being pushed outside the church is stressful and heartbreaking.
Traditional view: Unless you become as little children, you'll not enter the kingdom.
Present-day view: Unless you become a canon lawyer, research and sort your way through valid/invalid popes, ordinations, sacraments, Masses, and come to the correct conclusion and act accordingly, you'll not enter the kingdom.
Rejecting the obvious modern/synodal nonsense (and retaining pre-V2 teachings) is the easy part.
"...faithful children of Tradition within the structures of the modern Church, preserving the old Mass and the old Faith while remaining under authorities who no longer believed either. We did not know how wrong we were.”
I long to feel the joy of hearing loved ones who R&R at a "reverent" TLM Novus Ordo parish say those words, knowing they would then have a chance at salvation.
What courageous, honest and holy men they are! I agree with what they have stated and acted on.
God bless and keep them. May their very public courage and faith inspire those of us who live daily in our own quiet way in our attempt to keep the True Faith. A daily battle that at times feels impossible, but by God's Grace and with St. Joseph's help as Patron of the Universal Church a battle which will be won!
God is calling us all to choose. So good to see some more men of courage. If you serve Christ, you can't serve the anti church. Too many choose the life of comfort, friends, respectability, positions etc....and our Lord is showing us who they are. Very sad to see so many willing to go along but the church is a huge business today. Many are employed by it or have an important position or respectability in it. Too many have given their lives to the church..investing countless hours, to create images of holiness so don't want to leave.
I too struggled as I was part of a church and community I loved but eventually left. In the 90's I realized we were PC but thought it fine because I believed the priests were correcting people and or kicking them out when necessary. Well, my world slowly but surely fell apart as lie after lie eventually made me define what I was seeing as Modernism. Now with the synodal church it is evident that they are teaching against what was always taught. Modernism was half the truth..always positive never speaking of sin or judgement. Synodality is actual acceptance of sin and betrayal of the Word of God, Tradition and the old magisterium.
You are either for God or against God so we can not compromise. Sorry to say, the pinch of incense is being packaged as compassion for the good priests vs bad bishops. But how can one be good if they obey evil. Isn't obedience to evil itself evil?
Absolutely, positively agree with these courageous men. God is using the Church's Passion as a sifting process. One must choose between following Christ or following modernism. Fence-sitting will not cut it, and cowtowing to the Vatican's weaponization of "obedience" will not fly.
Where can I add my signature?
🙏🙏🙏
The biggest issue I have with the Redemptorists is there leader, he should have stuck with the SSPX all along.
His is like a reed that bends in the wind.
CLARITY!! Whether you agree (i do!!) or disagree with them, one HAS to find the clarity in their position a refreshing break from the ambiguity and doubletalk that is synonymous with Rome!!
May God continue to bless them and guide them in His Truth🙏🙏
Very disappointed. Why they don’t call those guys in white trappings from Roncalli to Prevost are not popes at best? And the imperfect general council is a joke, all real Cardinals are death, the remaining traditional Bishops and Priests do not have any ordinary jurisdiction, they only have sacramental power to sanctify souls, let alone a council.
Maybe you could watch the interview with them on Kokx News?:
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=kokx+news
They stated that the Conciliar Popes were not true Popes; I misunderstood their call for an imperfect Council; from my reading, it is not to elect a Pope, but to make a clear Canonical declaration of the non-Papacy of these men.
"And the imperfect general council is a joke, all real Cardinals are death, the remaining traditional Bishops and Priests do not have any ordinary jurisdiction, they only have sacramental power to sanctify souls, let alone a council"
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Your dead end vision for the Church is a joke.
My feeling is that these monks are full of righteousness and to tell the truth very naive too: the tradconciliar religion and the conciltrad one have never existed, don’t exist and will never ! It’s that simple and the trads have to choose either one or the other. Now with the synodal dinguerie it’s worse: can you imagine tradsynodal! What’s that animal ? Think about it ! Chicken ass duck head! Or if you prefer the wedding of the carp and the rabbit !
The arguments of Unam Sanctam used to justify the imperfect council are not based on the laws of the church. They admit that an imperfect council "starts outside the bounds of legality" but can produce a valid a pope, and they say that "deadly legalism" will not stop them from proceeding with it. See this analysis of their arguments.
https://johnofrochester.substack.com/p/a-freemasonic-imperfect-council?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=5yglq7
Many more are reaching the same conclusion and want nothing to do with the false synodal church.
“The Redemptorists were marked by doctrinal clarity, missionary zeal, Marian devotion, and fierce opposition to the theological laxity of their age.”
Not so any longer. They are marked by doctrinal ambiguity and Modernism, have no concern for the salvation of souls since all religions lead to God, and are as theologically lax as they can be. They do have a sort of misguided Marian devotion but it is not that of Saint Alphonsus of whom they are ashamed. How far they have fallen. Our holy Father Alphonsus must be thoroughly disgusted to see what has become of his congregation.
It is extremely painful to see.
Please keep us updated on your situation, Fr., prayers for you!
Their mistake and the mistake of the SSPX is believing non-Catholics can both be members of the Catholic Church and have authority over those who are Catholic and thus members of the Catholic Church.
Perhaps, but for the faithful laity, access to valid sacraments and valid priests is paramount.
Yes of course but there are no valid priests or sacraments except possibly Baptism and Marriage in the Novus Ordo church and it has had no valid pope.
their masses for the most part are valid and so are all the other sacraments.All priests in my area believe in the real presence and that sacraments give grace.
I can't agree. A counterfeit church led by a false pope who rewrote all of the sacraments to conform to its heretical theological and philosophical principles can't logically be valid. Nor can an invalid pope codify rewritten sacraments that reflect a heretical theology to make them valid. All the priests in the Novus Ordo church belong to a counterfeit church so it doesn't matter if they happen to believe something the Catholic Church teaches; they believe the errors and heresies of the counterfeit church as well or they wouldn't be in it.
How do you confirm you are a member of the one true church?
Focusing not on the synodal church and the magisterium that built it to create a new religion?
The church is eternal and Jesus promised the gates of hell would never prevail.
Just continue to attend traditional mass and follow teachings (and ordained teachers) who follow pre Vatican 2 teachings, scripture translations and interpretations, and dont change what the church has taught for centuries? Holding on tight but what if traditional mass and the good people who offer it for us to God are excommunnicated in the name of defying the authority of the church?
I am a child of God. But I am a wife and mother second... I will do everything I can to help my husband and children get to Heaven. But navigating how to do this without feeling like Im slowly being pushed outside the church is stressful and heartbreaking.
Yep.
Traditional view: Unless you become as little children, you'll not enter the kingdom.
Present-day view: Unless you become a canon lawyer, research and sort your way through valid/invalid popes, ordinations, sacraments, Masses, and come to the correct conclusion and act accordingly, you'll not enter the kingdom.
Rejecting the obvious modern/synodal nonsense (and retaining pre-V2 teachings) is the easy part.
I agree - there is stress and heartbreak here.
Everyone who agrees with them should consider reading the Unamsanctam.org doctrine argument and then decide what side of the fence you stand
Clear critical thinking can lead to only one conclusion. This ain't hard.
Excellent suggestion! Very informative!
"...faithful children of Tradition within the structures of the modern Church, preserving the old Mass and the old Faith while remaining under authorities who no longer believed either. We did not know how wrong we were.”
I long to feel the joy of hearing loved ones who R&R at a "reverent" TLM Novus Ordo parish say those words, knowing they would then have a chance at salvation.