The Church's traditions help us to both reach eternity and understand who God is—how He desires to be worshipped, not how we prefer to worship Him. In other words, it is His preference that matters.
It was moments like this that helped me realizedthat there is the Catholic Church, whole language, traditions, customs, rites, etc are consistent and universal, and the concilar church, which pretends to be Catholic, and steals the words, but presents a totally different language, with foreign (and problematic) rites, customs and morals. The NO is not Catholic, and Catholics are to have absolutely nothing to do with non-Catholic rites. Taking to good (ex) friends of helped me realize this. When you say "Real Presence" you mean it in the Catholic sense. When they say "Real Presence" they mean it in a foreign sense...
Our pastor informed us of a Vatican investigative party is coming to the States soon to "visit" the FSSP. Pray unceasingly for the conversion of the hearts and minds of the papacy.
Your friend from St Bendict's parish (FSSP) Fort Worth
Keep fighting the good fight dear friend, I hope you consider the Third Order of the SSPX, to understand the deep underpinnings of what happens with a faith that leads towards self, man at center, compared to recognizing Christ. I hope you pray and offer a novena for your friend, in true charity = love of enemies and those who persecute you. It also seems like a great lesson in that we must Restore All Things in Christ, as much as we like to coin the Recognize and Resist it only feeds into their perspective of the extreme traditionalist. Sadly they would not even see that even traditional minded novus ordo bishops like Bishop Schneider has whole books on this topic, or that V2 council did never allow for communion in the hand but it was by relativism that it was pushed by different parishes and by improvising of priests that caused for such sacrilege. All you would have to do is ask someone, show me a document that allowed for communion in the hand by the Church in a whole. This was merely out of disobedience probably by masonic bishops.
Found this in a quick search so I can not consent to the site in general but this quote:
"Despite the vote, in 1969 Pope Paul VI decided to strike a compromise with his disobedient bishops on the continent. Given “the gravity of the matter,” the pope would not authorize Communion in the hand. He was, however, open to bestowing an indult – an exception to the law – under certain conditions: first, an indult could not be given to a country in which Communion in the hand was not an already established practice; second, the bishops in countries where it was established must approve of the practice “by a secret vote and with a two-thirds majority.” Beyond this, the Holy See set down seven regulations concerning communion in the hand; failure to maintain these regulations could result in the loss of the indult. The first three regulations concerned: 1) respecting the laity who continue the traditional practice (of receiving kneeling and on the tongue), 2) maintaining the laity’s proper respect of the Eucharist, and 3) strengthening the laity’s faith in the real presence.
Bernardin’s Campaign
So how did Communion in the hand come to America?
In 1975 and again in 1976, Archbishop Joseph Bernardin, the president of the National Conference of Catholic Bishops (NCCB) attempted in vain to garner two-thirds of the bishops to vote in favor of receiving Communion in the hand. The following year – which coincided with the end of Bernardin’s term as president – brought one final attempt. Bernadin appointed Archbishop Quinn, who became Bernardin’s immediate successor as NCCB president, to be the chief lobbyist for Communion in the hand. During the proceedings a brave bishop requested a survey of the bishops be taken – this survey would ask each bishop whether or not Communion in the hand was widely practiced in his diocese, for without the practice’s current wide-use the first condition of the indult would not be satisfied."
Bernadin was a evil man, Lord have mercy on him. These are the men that pushed for the desecration of our Lord Jesus here in the US. These men, like Bernadin, were caught doing horrible things and could be that there were involved in judeo masonic satanist rituals. But I guess that would be enough for someone to know where this whole communion in the hand was push by so to see its bad roots if they really wanted to know, but it is sad when people have that harden heart for some reason. Thus grace is needed. For the thought comes that most are stuck to their view for some reason or something they are holding on to. Usually what I see when people do not want to leave the Novus Ordo, for human respect, usually tends to be some lack of family or security.
I hope this pushes you to keep the SSPX and share the fruits of your love of Christ and His beloved Church by the means of His priesthood, which orders us to such love not out of preference, but what is due to His order and hierarchy, to know we are not God, but children. Receiving as we would, from the Father, as the little ones we are. PAX+ Hope you check out the magazine I produce supporting the SSPX and the traditional Catholic Faith+
You welcome, Deo Gratias. Seems they have some great insights, but just caution on these points " This is why we need a new Liturgical Movement, which will call to life the real heritage of the Second Vatican Council. " for the council was not merely an issue of liturgy but its about the Priesthood and Doctrine. Religious indifference being one of those big issues. As you probably have read in Archbishop Lefebrve's writings. There is no real middle ground, for the council documents are meant to liberalize the Faith. It is why we see moral relativism in such discussions you had, where it is as it is there is two faiths. When our Lord says, there is One Faith. Ephesians 4:5. God bless+ Mary keep you.
PS. Nice Title BTW, Radical Fidelity is what we need+
I considered myself a devout Novus Ordo Catholic and not knowing anything of tradition or the existence of the TLM I left this NO church with nothing but my rosary to sustain me spiritually and emotionally as the trauma this caused was terrible to put it mildly. I just couldn't cope with the irreverence and the mayhem and disrespect for Our Lord in the Eucharist anymore. I used to receive on my tongue and on my knees feeling that everyone in the church was looking at me and thinking, "What a holier than thou hypocrite)" and that's how I felt but I couldn't do anything else but go on my knees when I reached the alter steps.
One day contemplating my decision and wondering if this is really what God wants me to do and praying so hard for answers, I listened to a talk one morning online by a traditionalist priest and he was teaching on the ten commandments (something I'd never heard before at the NO mass) and at this time I didn't know about there being a traditional Catholicism.. He talked about sins against the first commandment and it was something like this: One sins against the first commandment by worshiping a false god or gods, by rendering false worship to the True God or partaking in scandalous worship of the True God.
It was like a light bulb went on in my soul and I knew I wouldn't be attending the NO again.
A well-written letter presents a comprehensive analysis of the current global situation, drawing on biblical citations, papal encyclicals, writings from Church Fathers, prophets, mystics, and visionaries.
I remind you throughout history, the prophecy of apostasy emanating from the highest levels of the church before the end of the era and the second coming of Christ. Our Lady Of Buen Suceso (The Good Event) Of The Purification (Our Lady of Good Success), Quito, Ecuador 1594-1634, provided insights into various contemporary church issues. Similarly, the events that occurred during the Our Lady of Fatima apparitions (May 13 to October 13, 1917) foreshadowed challenges such as a flawed council (Vatican II), apostasy among bishops and cardinals, priests, and a problematic synod described in the Garabandal events (1961-1965). Blessed Anne Catherine Emmerich, a Roman Catholic Augustinian, a mystic, Marian visionary, ecstatic, and stigmatist, along with Archbishop Fulton Sheen, warned about the emergence of a counterfeit church. The Vatican II reforms, particularly the Novus Ordo liturgies, have been criticized for diluting sacraments, turning their backs on God during their feckless ceremonies, and allowing and encouraging the profanation of the Eucharist.
Consequently, there are two churches in operation today: one authentic and the other counterfeit, representing the apostasy of the true Church. The authentic church is thriving (TLM), while the counterfeit church is spiraling into destruction. My point: we shouldn’t be operating (talking) as if there is one church today. While there is one person seated in the Chair of Peter, this does not mean he has absolute authority. Francis does not even acknowledge the title of Vicar of Christ. Furthermore, if he is not Catholic, has committed heresy, or apostasy, (evident of his behaviors) he can still occupy the Chair of Peter, but he lacks authority. He has incurred “Latae sententiae,” excommunication if he is not Catholic, has committed heresy’s or is an apostate. While Francis is still a breath of life in him we should pray and fast that he is given the grace to right the wrongs of his pontificate before he is called to his final judgment. 🙏.
Semana Santa in Seville 2023 was a great and abundant spiritual exercise for my wife and I. Sadly, the TLM has been suppressed in Seville. A great blessing was upon us as we attended the TLM in Madrid at Nuestra Señora de la Paz Holy Tuesday and Wednesday.
I love that you chose a scene from one of the prcessions.
You claim that reception of holy communion kneeling and on the tongue is a tradition dating back 19 centuries, but you provide no evidence. We do know that early Christians did receive communion regularly, and under both kinds, but there is little evidence of how they received, except an early document describing reception of the body in the hand; this was used to justify the change in practice in the 1970s. I’ve never seen or heard quoted a similar document describing reception on the tongue. Nor is there any evidence I’ve seen suggesting the people knelt. Can you name an ancient church with altar rails?
The change of practice from reception under both kinds to reception under the form of bread only was a break with Tradition. Then the custom arose of the priest alone receiving communion; another break with Tradition, and one subsequently condemned by the Council of Trent, although that teaching of Trent remained a dead letter until the 20th century. According to your stated views these changes of practice would be illegitimate, and logically you ought always to receive under both kinds. The authority which allowed reception under one kind is the same authority which allowed what was probably the reintroduction of communion in the hand.
The allegedly ancient practice of Communion in the hand was in no way practised as it is today in the modern church. The false claim often heard today that we have simply "revived an ancient tradition" is disingenuous and misleading. There is a short but well-documented book on this subject, which contains many references within it that you can go through and look up if you are interested in studying the question more objectively. It is called, "The Eucharistic Storms." I hope this helps.
It was moments like this that helped me realizedthat there is the Catholic Church, whole language, traditions, customs, rites, etc are consistent and universal, and the concilar church, which pretends to be Catholic, and steals the words, but presents a totally different language, with foreign (and problematic) rites, customs and morals. The NO is not Catholic, and Catholics are to have absolutely nothing to do with non-Catholic rites. Taking to good (ex) friends of helped me realize this. When you say "Real Presence" you mean it in the Catholic sense. When they say "Real Presence" they mean it in a foreign sense...
Well said. Well done.
Our pastor informed us of a Vatican investigative party is coming to the States soon to "visit" the FSSP. Pray unceasingly for the conversion of the hearts and minds of the papacy.
Your friend from St Bendict's parish (FSSP) Fort Worth
Keep fighting the good fight dear friend, I hope you consider the Third Order of the SSPX, to understand the deep underpinnings of what happens with a faith that leads towards self, man at center, compared to recognizing Christ. I hope you pray and offer a novena for your friend, in true charity = love of enemies and those who persecute you. It also seems like a great lesson in that we must Restore All Things in Christ, as much as we like to coin the Recognize and Resist it only feeds into their perspective of the extreme traditionalist. Sadly they would not even see that even traditional minded novus ordo bishops like Bishop Schneider has whole books on this topic, or that V2 council did never allow for communion in the hand but it was by relativism that it was pushed by different parishes and by improvising of priests that caused for such sacrilege. All you would have to do is ask someone, show me a document that allowed for communion in the hand by the Church in a whole. This was merely out of disobedience probably by masonic bishops.
Found this in a quick search so I can not consent to the site in general but this quote:
"Despite the vote, in 1969 Pope Paul VI decided to strike a compromise with his disobedient bishops on the continent. Given “the gravity of the matter,” the pope would not authorize Communion in the hand. He was, however, open to bestowing an indult – an exception to the law – under certain conditions: first, an indult could not be given to a country in which Communion in the hand was not an already established practice; second, the bishops in countries where it was established must approve of the practice “by a secret vote and with a two-thirds majority.” Beyond this, the Holy See set down seven regulations concerning communion in the hand; failure to maintain these regulations could result in the loss of the indult. The first three regulations concerned: 1) respecting the laity who continue the traditional practice (of receiving kneeling and on the tongue), 2) maintaining the laity’s proper respect of the Eucharist, and 3) strengthening the laity’s faith in the real presence.
Bernardin’s Campaign
So how did Communion in the hand come to America?
In 1975 and again in 1976, Archbishop Joseph Bernardin, the president of the National Conference of Catholic Bishops (NCCB) attempted in vain to garner two-thirds of the bishops to vote in favor of receiving Communion in the hand. The following year – which coincided with the end of Bernardin’s term as president – brought one final attempt. Bernadin appointed Archbishop Quinn, who became Bernardin’s immediate successor as NCCB president, to be the chief lobbyist for Communion in the hand. During the proceedings a brave bishop requested a survey of the bishops be taken – this survey would ask each bishop whether or not Communion in the hand was widely practiced in his diocese, for without the practice’s current wide-use the first condition of the indult would not be satisfied."
(https://www.newliturgicalmovement.org/2014/03/truth-about-communion-in-hand-while.html)
Bernadin was a evil man, Lord have mercy on him. These are the men that pushed for the desecration of our Lord Jesus here in the US. These men, like Bernadin, were caught doing horrible things and could be that there were involved in judeo masonic satanist rituals. But I guess that would be enough for someone to know where this whole communion in the hand was push by so to see its bad roots if they really wanted to know, but it is sad when people have that harden heart for some reason. Thus grace is needed. For the thought comes that most are stuck to their view for some reason or something they are holding on to. Usually what I see when people do not want to leave the Novus Ordo, for human respect, usually tends to be some lack of family or security.
I hope this pushes you to keep the SSPX and share the fruits of your love of Christ and His beloved Church by the means of His priesthood, which orders us to such love not out of preference, but what is due to His order and hierarchy, to know we are not God, but children. Receiving as we would, from the Father, as the little ones we are. PAX+ Hope you check out the magazine I produce supporting the SSPX and the traditional Catholic Faith+
Thank you so much for your encouragement! I am already a fan and reader of New Liturgical Movement!
You welcome, Deo Gratias. Seems they have some great insights, but just caution on these points " This is why we need a new Liturgical Movement, which will call to life the real heritage of the Second Vatican Council. " for the council was not merely an issue of liturgy but its about the Priesthood and Doctrine. Religious indifference being one of those big issues. As you probably have read in Archbishop Lefebrve's writings. There is no real middle ground, for the council documents are meant to liberalize the Faith. It is why we see moral relativism in such discussions you had, where it is as it is there is two faiths. When our Lord says, there is One Faith. Ephesians 4:5. God bless+ Mary keep you.
PS. Nice Title BTW, Radical Fidelity is what we need+
Another fantastic post! Thank you 🙏
I considered myself a devout Novus Ordo Catholic and not knowing anything of tradition or the existence of the TLM I left this NO church with nothing but my rosary to sustain me spiritually and emotionally as the trauma this caused was terrible to put it mildly. I just couldn't cope with the irreverence and the mayhem and disrespect for Our Lord in the Eucharist anymore. I used to receive on my tongue and on my knees feeling that everyone in the church was looking at me and thinking, "What a holier than thou hypocrite)" and that's how I felt but I couldn't do anything else but go on my knees when I reached the alter steps.
One day contemplating my decision and wondering if this is really what God wants me to do and praying so hard for answers, I listened to a talk one morning online by a traditionalist priest and he was teaching on the ten commandments (something I'd never heard before at the NO mass) and at this time I didn't know about there being a traditional Catholicism.. He talked about sins against the first commandment and it was something like this: One sins against the first commandment by worshiping a false god or gods, by rendering false worship to the True God or partaking in scandalous worship of the True God.
It was like a light bulb went on in my soul and I knew I wouldn't be attending the NO again.
Well said and done.
I'm giving this a conditional "heart". If you want True Orthodoxy, ditch the SSPX and the Novus Ordo. Become Sedevacantist.
A well-written letter presents a comprehensive analysis of the current global situation, drawing on biblical citations, papal encyclicals, writings from Church Fathers, prophets, mystics, and visionaries.
I remind you throughout history, the prophecy of apostasy emanating from the highest levels of the church before the end of the era and the second coming of Christ. Our Lady Of Buen Suceso (The Good Event) Of The Purification (Our Lady of Good Success), Quito, Ecuador 1594-1634, provided insights into various contemporary church issues. Similarly, the events that occurred during the Our Lady of Fatima apparitions (May 13 to October 13, 1917) foreshadowed challenges such as a flawed council (Vatican II), apostasy among bishops and cardinals, priests, and a problematic synod described in the Garabandal events (1961-1965). Blessed Anne Catherine Emmerich, a Roman Catholic Augustinian, a mystic, Marian visionary, ecstatic, and stigmatist, along with Archbishop Fulton Sheen, warned about the emergence of a counterfeit church. The Vatican II reforms, particularly the Novus Ordo liturgies, have been criticized for diluting sacraments, turning their backs on God during their feckless ceremonies, and allowing and encouraging the profanation of the Eucharist.
Consequently, there are two churches in operation today: one authentic and the other counterfeit, representing the apostasy of the true Church. The authentic church is thriving (TLM), while the counterfeit church is spiraling into destruction. My point: we shouldn’t be operating (talking) as if there is one church today. While there is one person seated in the Chair of Peter, this does not mean he has absolute authority. Francis does not even acknowledge the title of Vicar of Christ. Furthermore, if he is not Catholic, has committed heresy, or apostasy, (evident of his behaviors) he can still occupy the Chair of Peter, but he lacks authority. He has incurred “Latae sententiae,” excommunication if he is not Catholic, has committed heresy’s or is an apostate. While Francis is still a breath of life in him we should pray and fast that he is given the grace to right the wrongs of his pontificate before he is called to his final judgment. 🙏.
I appreciate your endeavors here as a Catholic. They've definitely been expedient to my overall knowledge and growth. Thanks.
Semana Santa in Seville 2023 was a great and abundant spiritual exercise for my wife and I. Sadly, the TLM has been suppressed in Seville. A great blessing was upon us as we attended the TLM in Madrid at Nuestra Señora de la Paz Holy Tuesday and Wednesday.
I love that you chose a scene from one of the prcessions.
Deus vult!
Another top notch post!
Many of us have to pass through these moments of unreasonableness or crisis before seeing things clearly. Don't look back!
Your views are contradictory.
You claim that reception of holy communion kneeling and on the tongue is a tradition dating back 19 centuries, but you provide no evidence. We do know that early Christians did receive communion regularly, and under both kinds, but there is little evidence of how they received, except an early document describing reception of the body in the hand; this was used to justify the change in practice in the 1970s. I’ve never seen or heard quoted a similar document describing reception on the tongue. Nor is there any evidence I’ve seen suggesting the people knelt. Can you name an ancient church with altar rails?
The change of practice from reception under both kinds to reception under the form of bread only was a break with Tradition. Then the custom arose of the priest alone receiving communion; another break with Tradition, and one subsequently condemned by the Council of Trent, although that teaching of Trent remained a dead letter until the 20th century. According to your stated views these changes of practice would be illegitimate, and logically you ought always to receive under both kinds. The authority which allowed reception under one kind is the same authority which allowed what was probably the reintroduction of communion in the hand.
The allegedly ancient practice of Communion in the hand was in no way practised as it is today in the modern church. The false claim often heard today that we have simply "revived an ancient tradition" is disingenuous and misleading. There is a short but well-documented book on this subject, which contains many references within it that you can go through and look up if you are interested in studying the question more objectively. It is called, "The Eucharistic Storms." I hope this helps.
Schism is a mortal sin
https://substack.com/@stevenberger/note/c-91757337?r=1nm0v2
I am in no way defending the NO rite of baptism, but the truth is it does have exorcism and it is not optional.