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Hans Gruber Central Banker's avatar

A T-shirt or bumper sticker that says “I gave up Ramadan for Lent” would get the message across quickly.

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Our Blood and Soil's avatar

Amen

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Aaron's avatar

Those who accept V2 cannot but worship the same demon as the Muhammadans, BECAUSE V2 SPECIFICALLY SAYS THEY DO! The concilar "magisterium" has spoken. The Pope is supreme legislator, and proximate rule of faith. The concilar claimants to the Chair of Peter has all interpreted V2 as saying NuCatholics and Muhammadans worship the same god. There is no argument, unless you reject the claims of the V2 claimants and reject V2.

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Fr. Scott Bailey, C.Ss.R.'s avatar

Absolutely correct.

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Brian O’Neill's avatar

Very eloquently put. I find your argument very hard to fault

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Cathleen Strabala's avatar

““I pray not only for them, but also for those who will believe in me through their word, so that they may all be one, as you, Father, are in me and I in you, that they also may be in us, that the world may believe that you sent me.”

‭‭John‬ ‭17‬:‭20‬-‭21‬ ‭Jesus himself has called us to unity. Opening a dialogue with someone with opposing views can effectively begin by finding common ground.

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Crusader Bashir's avatar

Regarding the second point of if they worship the same God; this is the historical view. They ant like the Shinto or the pagans, but the culmination of the Arian heresy. They have a somewhat unique and distinct position, but this does mean their worship is pleasing to God, or that they aren't enemies

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Fr. Scott Bailey, C.Ss.R.'s avatar

Once again you’ve hit the nail firmly on the head.

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John Lewis's avatar

Why do you think these men are the hierarchy?

If they don’t profess the Catholic faith whole and inviolate they aren’t members of the Church.

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